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always thinks it's worse than whatever you or i say. you could say i think nuclear bombs are going to rain down on all of us in the next 15 minutes, mika would go, oh, it's much worse than that. >> question for you as we close the show, am i ever wrong? >> never, you're never wrong. >> careful. >> you're perfect. >> acceptable? except with the pig. the pig, that was wrong. >> that does it for us this morning. i love the pig. >> what's the pig? >> no. >> stephanie ruhle picks up the coverage right now. >> thank you, mika. thank you joe. i'm going to go i'm with her, mika's always right. i'm stephanie ruhle with much to cover this morning. starting with the state of the investigation. the cloud of the russia probe hangs over president trump's first state of the union address. while lawmakers are divided over protecting mueller after revelations the president tried to fire him. >> right now, there's not an issue, so why create one when
weigh in on jay z. well, you're in luck, i don't have jay z here, but i have an excellent panel here to break it down. my friend and colleague kristen welker live at the white house. let's talk about this speech. we could see the dark and draconian inauguration speech or we could see that nice clean shiny bipartisan flavored one that we saw gary cohen mostly pen for the president last year, maybe like the one we saw in davos on friday. >> you're right, in talking with senior administration officials, they say that the president will aim to strike a bipartisan tone, an optimistic tone. they know he's going to be addressing a deeply divided nation. so the tone is going to be critical. will he stick to the script? that's the big question though on everyone's mind. i can tell you that the theme of this year's speech is building a safe strong and proud america. and they're really going to be four pillars to the speech. one that focuses on the economy. of course he'll tout that big
tax reform victory. infrastructure. he's going to call on congress to pass a $1 trillion infrastructure package. immigration reform. that's the big fight. just last week president trump unveiling his plan that would give dreamers a pathway to citizenship in exchange for funding for his border wall. and of course national security. you can expect a key focus on north korea. the most pressing foreign policy problem the white house is facing. now, this is an unconventional president who is going to be stepping in to what is arguably a time-honored tradition here in washington and for the commander in chief. so, again, stef, the big question will be will he stick to the script? he's going to be breaking tradition on one point. which is that typically presidents hit the road after their state of the union address. not president trump. he's not planning a multistate tour to pitch his policies. instead, he's going to be here holding critical meetings at the white house. >> we have to talk about the russia investigation, because it
is following the president. walk us through these latest developments about this memo that some people want released, others don't. i love that i heard earlier from deputy press secretary from the white house who said the president himself, he hasn't read the memo. but of course you know he's been briefed on it and that's why he wants it out there. the president clearly has an agenda to make this investigation look tainted from the start. >> that's what the president and republicans are arguing, that this memo shows exactly that, that this investigation was tainted. they say it shows that deputy attorney general rod rosenstein ordered more surveillance of carter page. that's a trump associate who we know had contact with russian officials during the campaign. carter page said there was nothing untoward, there was nothing to do with collaborating with them inner it er i terms o with the u.s. election. in you look at details of the
memo, it shows there is bias. republicans say wait a minute, the facts in this memo are just cherry picked. this big debate comes amid reports that trump has been venting about rod ross enstein. his attorney who handles all things russia, ty cobb,ed that to say. we do not find it to be a coincidence that there is an onslaught of false stories circulating. we continue to cooperate with the special counsel and out of respect for that process, we will not weigh in further. continues to loom over everything here, stef. >> i guess it's stunning to hear ty cobb say we continue to cooperate. yet you know the president takes every chance he can to call the russia investigation an absolute hoax. robert trainem, dear friend of mine, served as senior campaign adviser for george w. bush and is currently with the bipartisan policy center.
mark leibovitz, also an msnbc contributor. and jake sherman, senior writer for politico. jake, there's a political headline that's driving me a little bonkers. >> uh-oh. i had nothing to do with it. >> where president trump basically just needs to be normal in his speech tomorrow night. does he not have to be more than that. we talked about how great that davos speech was. why is it great? because he didn't trip over himself? any other world leader if they didn't acknowledge clilt chanma change, refugees, income inequality, we would have been slamming him. things we slammed george w. bush for. >> listen, i guess he's definitely unconventional. we could say that from the start. i don't think we're going to see a big departure from all his other behavior in the past. i think the people looking for the president to somehow morph into another human work going to be -- they're disappointed
because we know who this president is, we know what he talks about, we know what his behavior is, you either like it or you don't. i think the idea, this fantastical notion he's going to become a different person is just that. >> here's the question, do we want him to be normal, presidential? in my mind, different things. >> he think he's being presidential and that's why he conducts himself like this. >> and much of america would agree. they voted for him to be exactly who he is. because they didn't want the washington they were used to. >> and what we have is chaos. what we have is someone that's unpresidential. what we have is someone who doesn't understand that when a president speaks, his or her words have weight. they affect obviously the economy. they affect people's anxiety about how they're feeling about themselvesings. what i read from the white house last night is that the president's going to be presidential. that he's going to be very patriotic. that he's going to speak to the economic accomplishments of this country. he's also going to pivot to a bipartisan tone. that's nice. but the question become, beyond the teleprompter, which he can do, he can read the teleprompter. beyond the tell prompter, can he
continue to be presidential for the remainder of his term? >> how do you work infrastructure into this speech which you need bipartisan support? when a week ago, when chuck schumer says yes, let's make a deal, within t12 hours, calling the president a total loser? >> i think most of the people watching this probably aren't keeping score that carefully about what was said last week and so forth. i mean, look you can see the two scenarios. either he'll read diligently from the teleprompter. it will be a typical state of the union address and people will praise him for growing into the job. then they'll be a counterreaction about how dare people normalize him and so forth. or he'll go off the rails, he'll do something crazy and people will talk about that for three days. so in a sense there is a rhythm rhythmic, you know, almost numbness to everything we could possibly see. >> but what about telling the truth? even if he doesn't go off the rail, you could look at -- i want to say tas "the washington post" or "the new york times," even fact checked the davos
speech. he talks about unprecedented job creation in the last 14 months. really? because 2.4 million in the last 14 months is less than the 2.8 million created in the 14 months before or the largest tax cut in history, which it ain't. >> he would argue, i think, and he sees the world in a way that says as long as -- if this conversation gets to a, on one hand, on the other hand level, he has won, because he has declared his headline in a grand sort of state of the union-like forum. the larger point of people didn't vote for this. people want him to be unusual. >> they did. >> but no, they didn't, because yes, they wanted a new kind of washington, but did they want someone who is outrageous, did they want someone who acts in the way he has. >> and i will say what people voted for in 2016 is the past. and right now if you're a republican, you're looking at generic ballots that have democrats up 16 points, which would be a wave of, you know, 50 seats in the house and perhaps deeper losses in the senate, who
knows. so the political climate has taken such a shift since 2016. and now republicans are having to on the local level, the house and senate, they have to answer for their performance. >> okay, then republican republ they want him to be normal, is he aware of that? nikki haley last night tweeting it destroyed the grammys that politics were brought into entertainment, is she aware that the president himself went after jay z this weekend? he goes after "snl." he goes after average tv ratings. he goes after the nfl. how does nikki haley say grammys are ruined because polititics a in the mix? >> the staff around him -- i actually went to a white house meeting last week where i was stunned. i was stunned by how normalized they made this president. it sounded very normal when i was back in the white house in
2004 and '05. the difference is this president thrives on chaos. he thrives on this kind of hitting the beehive with a grin. i think the real question is how do democrats act tomorrow. will they do a you lie moment? will they not give the office of the president the respect it deserves? i think that's the question tomorrow night. >> i'm sure they'll overplay their hand in either way. robert mueller and how the republicans are handling -- do the need to protect the president, do they protect mueller. >> legislation to protect mueller? >> i don't think there's a need. >> certainly wouldn't hurt to put that extra safeguard in place given the latest stories. >> okay, those are obviously two republicans. kevin mccarthy, the guy who separates star bursts to please the president. >> two different bases, though. mccarthy is a traditional house conservative that's speaking not
only to his base back in california but speaking to the base in the building behind us. >> star bursts? >> collins is a moderate, thoughtful -- look what i'm saying is there's a difference between a house member and senate member in terms of what they're saying. >> go to the big house, the white house. you've got "the washington post" reporting that the president continues to refer to the department of justice as my guys. the department of justice are our guys. as americans. >> you would think, right. i mean, it is a little puzzling, i mean, the reaction here. i don't quite get the argument not to safeguard mueller's position at all. as susan collins said, what does it hurt. and mccarthy saying that, you know, there's no -- there's really no need for it now. is completely disingenuous. we had a report last week that he actually wanted to fire mueller several months ago, back in june. more to the point, when it becomes relevant, it will be too late, he will have fired him.
>> let's just flip the script. if hillary clinton was in the white house and she was being investigated -- >> oh, my god -- >> literally republicans would be saying something -- >> one thing on mccarthy, he is speaking to an audience of one, the president. he's very close to the president. the president calls him all the time, talking to him all the time. we have to keep that in mind, this is not a typical -- >> here's somebody else who might be close to the president, vladimir putin. today is the deadline to impose sanctions against russia. can the president afford not to comply? >> probably not. because congress has power to slap more sanctions on and do other things. this is where you really actually do see a dividing line between house republicans and senate republicans and the president. because on the hill they are still taking a tough stance on russia -- >> then rather than work himself in to a frenzy over releasing a memo, or going after rosenstein,
the democrat from baltimore, why would the president jump over this very low bar and impose sanctions on the kremlin? >> because i think he thinks he doesn't have to. it gets to the larger point, who he believes he is accountable to. whether it's my guys in the justice department or my guys on the hill. he doesn't -- i mean, he doesn't see this -- he doesn't see any kind of check and balance to what he believes he thinks should happen. >> i guess than the question is why doesn't he want to inpose sanctions. >> that's the million dollar question, and only the president knows the answer. we think it goes back to all of those shell condominiums and shell corporations from russia -- >> how naive -- worth far more than $1 million. all right. up next, casino mogul steve wynn. worth way more than $1 million. stepping down as finance chair of the rnc after allegations of misconduct. after blasting democrats over
weinstein donations. why are so many republicans staying silent over donations from wynn? you remember steve wynn who co-chaired that $100,000 a couple dinner at mar-a-lago last saturday night. first, will ferrell returned to "saturday night live" this weekend reprising one of my favorites, his old role as george w. bush. this brings a tear to robert's eye. you remember when we would see -- well, he addressed actually george bush's newfound popularity. >> and donald trump thinks the media hates him? one time an iraqi reporter threw an actual shoe at me. he took it off his foot, lobbed it straight at my noggin. then he gathered himself, took off the other one and tried it again. but you know what they say, shoe me once, shoe's on you. shoe me twice, i'm keeping those shoes.
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success we have achieved must continue. the work we are doing to make america a better place is to important to be impaired by this distraction. i want to bring in our contributor, the president and eo of voter latino. and mark lebo vitts back with me. in a normal universe, you will say, this is damning for republicans. but is it really? we're talking about a president -- the age of president trump. i mean, two weeks ago, we're talking stormy daniels, where the white house says yep, 130 grand, paid that out for now apparent reason. >> can't figure it out. the interesting part first of all is he denies anything happened. you don't pay a manicurist $7 million unless you have something to hide. the challenge though is because all these stories are literally coming out so quickly, it's almost -- it's difficult for people to actually get their arms around it. unfortunately, right now, the republicans feel like they have -- they're teflon, nothing is sticking to them. >> are they, i mean, factors, a few months, you hear
republicans, steve wynn himself, going after democrats from taking money from harvey weinstein. but steve wynn's situation, harvey weinstein's situation are not the same. >> yes, i guess i'm a little more befuddled by the silence. because we used to be the party of this is the wrong thing this is a bad thing. we hold ourselves up to a bit of a higher standard. >> why are you befuddled by it? do don jr. last night said there must be video out there of jay z and what he said about women. there might be. there's also video of your dad doing it. why are you befuddled? >> more republicans are not saying this is not right, this is not normal. why are we becoming sensitized to this? there's a sense of right and wrong in terms of how you treat other people with dignity and respect or lack thereof. and the silence is deffening on this. i'm very disappointed. not only in just republicans but all lawmakers who remain silent on this type of thing. because, and i go back to my earlier talking point about hillary clinton.
if this was hillary clinton, if this was hillary clinton, i guarantee republicans would be calling for her resignation asap. >> this is the hypocrisy with the republican party. you listed every single thing the republicans used to stand for. family values. being able to stay this is wrong, step aside. part of it is this idea they've tasted power. they actually want to stay in power. and they'll do it at any cost. they also know if they start cleaning house too quickly, it's something that's going to impact them for the 2018 elections and they don't want to reshuffle that so quickly. >> i don't think -- i'm not befuddled at all frankly. it's been going on for a long time. the republican party has asserted who it is, what it is, certainly over last year and a half. but i think the larger point is that this is actually, you know, it could look teflon in so many ways because yes, everything moves quickly. the news cycle just keeping turning over. but i think the republicans are paying a terrible price -- >> where? >> -- both in generic ballots
and what could be the midterms and erosion of the republican base. people emphasize that 86% of republicans still support donald trump. what people don't emphasize is this number this universe is shrinking. there have been a lot of republican defections who are now independents. the vast majority of independents are quite hostile to the republican party. that is i think an underplayed story. i think this is the price. >> if there are a number of republicans who are saying the republican party has gone too far, i simply can't vote, isn't the answer for democrats to find a place in the middle, to scoop up this support? instead of pushing to the left? because those republicans who are defecting, they're not going to bernie sanders and elizabeth warren country. >> that is the challenge right now, fight right now in democratic parties trying to figure out what is their true north. absent policy, you get what you get in virginia. the reason the governor won by nine points, wasn't because he was to the candidate, it was
because all of the down candidates were talking about the issues of economics. talking about the issues of education. the issues that literally the majority of americans want to talk about. and they basically gave him the down ballot, sweep for him to go into office. the democrats, all they want to talk about is the top level ticket. and that is where they're going to actually have a challenge because they don't want to talk about the real issues impacting americans. >> let's say republicans lose steve wynn's dollars. he's been a huge donor. does it actually matter? think about all the americans who are saving a huge amount of money with the new tax plan. great, you don't have steve wynn's dollars? the koch brothers will fill in that gap. >> yes, i read this morning that the koch brothers are going to put in $400 million for the -- because they're concerned that democrats will overperform come november. leave it up to democrats obviously to lose a race. i think at the end of the day, it's probably going to be a sweep. i do think democrats are probably going to take back the house. i'm not sure about the senate. i think mark is right. the reality is there is a lot of moderate republicans, college
age republicans and so forth that are saying enough is enough, i can't stand this anymore. you saw that with doug jones in alabama. i think we'll see that in november. >> back to the basics, the democrats basically decided they were going to call every single voter. the naacp basically called every single person on the voter roll. that had never happened in the last couple of elections we can think of collectively. this idea you have to go back to the basics, actually talking and engaging, is something americans have to start doing better. >> the answer is charles barkley. remember, it was like 20 years ago. when charles barkley said, i don't have to set an example for your kids, i just need to play basketball. and now look. the answer in the state of alabama is charles barkley. we're going to leave this conversation there. take a break. up next, nearly every president ends their speech with some variation of the say the of the union is strong. but will people at home agree? we spoke to some voters who used
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primer. everything you need to know to get your day started. we begin in kabul, afghanistan where at least 11 people were killed and another 16 injured this morning when militants attacked an afghan army unit. the attack is the latest in a wave of relentless violence in the city unleashed by the taliban on the islamic state. the flu season is now the worst in almost a decade. federal health officials warn this year's outbreak is the most severe since the 2009 swine flu pandemic. and it is still getting worse. and the trump administration is reportedly, and i want to dig into this story, considering a takeover of a portion of the nation's wireless broadband network. according to axios, officials are considering building a centralized 5-g network to prevent china from spying on our phones. and new reports show hillary clinton decided not to fire a senior adviser on her 2008 presidential campaign who had been accused of sexual harassment. clinton's campaign manager
recommended the adviser be fired and clinton herself decided against doing so. and republican senator marco rubio has fired his chief of staff after hearing he allegedly had improper conduct with subordinate staffers. and in his first state of the union address, president trump plans to strike a tone of unity, hoping to sell a country with a stronger economy and safer borders just one year into his presidency. here's a question, will people buy it? what do people outside washington think of the state of the country? nbc's rehema ellis sat down with a panel of voters in south carolina. rehema, what did you learn? >> well, this group of voters, republicans and democrats, we've talked with before, would very much like to see a unified nation. but contrary to what the president is expected to talk about tomorrow night, they don't think he's done very much to promote unity. the president is about to give a state of the union address, nancy.
how would you define the state of the union? >> i'm not sure, because he is -- he's going to be unpredictable. in that what he's going to say, what's he going to do. i really hope he's depending on the people whispering in his ear. >> kobe, 21 years old, recent college graduate. how would you define the state of the union? >> it's still pretty much divided. i mean, look at our government. we had a government shutdown. there we go, where you can't get along. nobody gets along. we've got to, like we said before, we've got to get both parties together. >> i think the state of the union is sad right now. >> sad? >> sad, very sad. i think it's sad when our leader, you know, refers to an entire body of people, many of them who are citizens of this country, as coming from shithole countries. >> there's a lot of turmoil simmering below the surface that we have to deal with.
i mean, you can't have the hate spewed about and the distrust of our president and our government and accomplish what we need to be to be the great country we want to be. >> what we also have now is a lot of people who are criticizing our politicians and our people who have elected to put in these positions, we're chopping their legs out from under them before they can even get a good swing at what they're doing. let's sort of get behind our people a little bit. we want people to succeed. we've got to get together and figure things out. if we don't do that, we are doomed. >> one thing i do like that donald trump thinks, it looks like he's doing, he's pulling money out of places we don't need to be spending it. maybe bringing it back here and doing something to fix some of these other problems we hope. >> as an attorney, i understand the power of negotiation. when i sit down at a mediation with opposing counsel, my client isn't going to get everything he
or she wants. democrats and republicans, they need to realize, you're not always going to get everything you want, right. >> we've got to work together. we cannot be against two ropes pulling each other like a tug-of-war. we have got to sit down and work together. >> and what do you think is the possibility of that happening? >> greg? >> according to our past year, slim and none. >> folks are saying they don't have a whole lot of confidence in things coming together in the country very soon, stephanie, but they want to see a unified nation. and they really would like to see the president be the leader in that charge. >> a unified nation. a lot of us would like to see that. thank you so much. up next, a large portion of the president's state of the union speech, it is expected to focus on the economy. we know that the stock market is up and unemployment is down.
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welcome back. it's my favorite part of the show, money, power, politics. the economy is expected to be a big focus of president trump's first state of uniton address and it should be, it's doing very well. he's also going to make his pitch to rebuild america's infrastructure, that is according to white house legislative director mark short. take a look. >> the president's also going to make an appeal to democrats. to say we need to rebuild our country. to make an appeal that to do infrastructure, we need to do it in a bipartisan way. >> president trump promised to rebuild america with a $1 trillion infrastructure plan
during the campaign. i want to bring in my president of the committee for responsible budget. president knows how to rack up debt. if infrastrauucture was truly a foc focus, it could have been worked into the tax plan. balancing the budget is important to you. >> there were a lot of things that would have got me excited. including tax reform and infrastructure spending. if we start with the basic approach of these are really important objectives for the economy, how are we going to pay for them. it used to be a principal that if something is important enough to do, it's important enough to pay for. >> algebra, solve for x. >> and more growth comes from less debt, so adding to the debt actually undermines your basic objective of growth. but we're now in a fiscal free for all where we didn't pay for tax cuts which is adding well over $1 trillion to the national debt. and now there's a whole list of
things that people want to add on to that bill. because basically we're saying, we don't have to pay for anything. that's a terrible recipe for longer term growth. >> how is it going to work if the president is saying we're going to give $200 billion of federal money to infrastructure over the next ten years, so much of the weight is going to fall on state and local governments. state governments, they can't have deficits. >> no, state governments can't have deficits. they also can't afford deficits. sort of mirrors and mimics the growing cost of health care, squeezing out the important investments in education and things we need to be doing for the long term. i would really say what we suffer from is huge short termism in our government spending. the focus is now, the focus is on the political cycle. it's like, let's get a sugar high and not worry about the crash because somebody else will be be in charge of it then. >> but short term-ism is not a new issue. and the president said over and
over gdp, i want 3%, i want 4%. and last week, even though it's a good number, it came in at 2.6%. given that the president is putting so much attention on numbers like 4% gdp, the stock market, how risky is that? because you got to live and die by the sword. >> what we should be looking at is the how we're going to increase our growth over the coming decade when we have big challenges not just high level, near record levels of debt, but huge demographic challenges where people are getting older and moving into retiremenretire. we should not be focusing nearly as much as we should on what is sustainable. we also should be unrealistic. some of the promises for growth are completely at odds with the demographic reality we face. we need realistic goals. a big piece of that is paying for them. and a longer term plan. we need to be looking at this -- the long-term issues are competitiveness.
a workforce that's prepared to help. dealing with the ageing of our society and how to help age in a productive way. we're talking about the stock market day to day. instead of a really sound fundamental underpinning. >> you've got less than half of americans who actually own stocks. and if you're talking about global competitiveness, president trump could have touted last week the stock market, but he's left out of the trade conversation. if you think about the real winners last week, you've got china. you've got emmanuel macron. talking about things like renewing ttp. and the president of the united states has been left out of this. while the united states remains important, we're not as important as we once were. so if he gets on the podium tomorrow night and talks about the economy and we know business sentiment large and small is positive. it's stronger than it was even a year ago. are people going to feel the trickle-down impact that guys like gary cohen want you to believe? because these bonuses, when companies give $1,000 bonuses.
when apple says we're going to, you know, hire more people. it makes people feel good. it's a good headline. are there going to be long-term benefits for the country? >> so there's two huge issues. will these short-term benefits to growth translate into something that is sustainable and lasting? so far, a lot of the policies we're doing are really sacrificing the longer-term pieces. and the second, which you brought up, is macro positive growth going to be divided in a way that is shared across the commit. if the focus is just on growth but not how that growth affects all citizens broadly, there, again, will be some real tensions that we bump into. but we're just not dealing with the complicated pieces of policy making. it's sort of like short-term bursts and tactics and not long-term thinking. which at a time when economy's changing so dramatically and quickly like it is, we need to be thinking a lot deeper than we have. certainly in washington a lot of ways. >> and in corporate america,
long-term thinking requires real bravery and courage, leadership. we don't see it that often. maya, thank you so much. we will be watching that state of the union address tomorrow night. up next, president trump, he's preparing for it, or at least his team is. while the cloud of the russia investigation continues to loom, this is not the first time a president has spoken to congress while under investigation. will trump take any lessons about how previous presidents handled the controversy? we'll see. first, you know what you were doing last night or maybe you're going to hear about it now. it of course was the grammys. bruno mars took home six trophies, including album, record and song of the year. people really love that "24 karat." but the winner of the night was this lady. you have to see her. she got to see jay z and beyonce close up. look at her face. she's a little excited. i'd like to say there's another lady who won last night, blue ivy, the eldest daughter of
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as you know, i have provided to the special prosecutor voluntarily a great deal of material. i believe the time has come com bring that investigation and the other investigations of this matter to an end. one year of watergate is enough. >> well, you know who that is, president richard nixon in his 1974 state of the union address, calling for the end of the watergate investigation. he resigned from office seven months later. today, president trump is preparing to address the state of the union tomorrow night. the white house hopes to escape the shadow of the ongoing russia investigation, historically low approval ratings and the threat of another government shutdown. i want to bring in a man whose seen his share of the state of the union speeches. michael, we obviously just saw
richard nixon, addressing head-on watergate. president clinton took a different approach as it related to monica lewinsky. what do we expect from president trump tomorrow night? >> in the bill clinton case, this was just after the lewinsky scandal broke. it was exactly 20 years ago this month. a lot of people were saying, what is he going to say about the subject that is on everyone's mind? you know, some people, pretty unrealistically thought he would talk about resignation. bill clinton gave this enormous long speech, never mentioned the scandal, talked about social security and his numbers went up. >> his numbers went up. we could see that with president trump. president trump, on friday, didn't address artificial intelligence or income equality. in a room where business leaders are paramount, he talked about tax cuts and the market and
people like it. how important are president trump's words? we are living in an era where we say it doesn't matter. think about fdr, the freedom speech in 1941. this is a moment. could it be a moment for the president or, in the world of trump, there are no moments? >> this thin this case, it will have that affect. you are talking fdr. everyone was trained to talk about the slightest knnuance. in 1941, he said the world should have four freedoms. that's something we should fight for. it was a sign to americans we might get into the war. in the case of donald trump, you know, words just as you are saying, what he says is so spur of the moment. this is a planned speech, but to conclude from this that we are going to see some big policy departure or something like that, i think what he's going to do is, you know, a state of the
union can be like an infomercial. you look like a chief of state. you are probably going to get applauded by those in the room. president obama had one guy yell, you are a liar and occasionally, you lie, things like that. this is all, basically stacked in his favor. if he has a well written speech, reads it off the teleprompter. i hope you will not hear commentators say this was so presidential. he sounded like a president. this is a packaged presentation. i wouldn't take it that seriously. >> take us back one year ago. he spoke before congress and got support in a bipartisan way. i remember watching a woman that night. she said, sure, that was a nice speech. wait until he hits twitter at midnight. four days later, he went after president obama for tapping trump tower. so, president trump may do a good job delivering a speech
that the white house puts together, but the real president trump comes out on social media. >> and will step on his message immediately. he had the biggest opportunity last year. an inaugural address is usually unifying. he gave one of the most divisive addresses in history. when he spoke to congress, he had the chance to overcome that. he did, for a moment. then with twitter and the rest of it, we now understand that and are prepared for that. people are not going to take it as seriously. >> do approval ratings matter? we have a president with a 39% approval rating. barack obama and george w. bush were in better shape. his loyalists will follow him no matter what. 39% is a low number. is it significant that it is a strong number? >> it's a strong number if they turn out. people who support an incumbent president don't necessarily turn
out, for instance, in a midterm election. this fall, you may see even though he has 39%, the people who detest will turn out in enormous numbers and that could tell the story. >> tomorrow night, people will be tuning in. the president loves that. he loves ratings. thank you so much. up next, one thing president trump is not expected to focus on in his state of the union is climate change. former e.p.a. chief and republican governor from my home state of new jersey will be here to explain why she thinks trump is missing an opportunity. he made no talk about climate change. itis time for "your business" of the week. travis weaver is one of the lucky ones.
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i believe there is always good news somewhere and we like to end our show with it and give it to you before we go. this one comes from south dakota at an event called ski for light. it is amazing. it gives people who are blind, visually impaired or have physical disabilities the chance to ski. 200 people showed up for the four-day event. we salute those on the slopes. every weekend in the winder, i go to new york and we have an adaptive program that does just this. let me tell you, it is my
favorite part of skiing there. opening that mountain up to people and giving them a whole new world. i'm stephanie rule. will be see you tomorrow. coming up, more news with another person back from davos. >> see you in 60 seconds on set. for this unconventional president, the most conventional of traditions, the state of the union. donald trump's first. for a divisive president, a chance to unite. talking bipartisanship, the economy with a preview ahead. the backdrop, the russia investigation casting its shadow over the white house. with new developments on the mysterious memo you have heard about coming tonight. we may get to see it with new reporting it takes aim at rod rosenstein. we'll have the three things you need to know about this